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		<title>By: Mistletoe and Wine &#8211; 2009 Review &#171; Brendan Hughes, talking about the Internet in business and society in Ireland</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1876</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mistletoe and Wine &#8211; 2009 Review &#171; Brendan Hughes, talking about the Internet in business and society in Ireland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Dec 2009 17:34:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] we started talking in detail about how realistic it was for Ireland to position itself as an innovation island and the need for an online network to bring innovators together. This conversation is not over yet [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] we started talking in detail about how realistic it was for Ireland to position itself as an innovation island and the need for an online network to bring innovators together. This conversation is not over yet [...]</p>
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		<title>By: John</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1804</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[John]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Nov 2009 13:23:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good post Brendan. Thanks]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good post Brendan. Thanks</p>
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		<title>By: Hugh Quigley</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1771</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Hugh Quigley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Nov 2009 12:06:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I picked up on this discussion and think that there is some correlation between what is being discussed here and the concept that for the first time in a recession Ireland does not have to physically export its talent but can tap into the rest of the world with a good internet connection.  There should be much more focus on nurturing indigenous talent which will grow and outlast the MNC&#039;s located here for tax reasons.  I would certainly be interested in joining a group such as discussed above so please pass on my contact details.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I picked up on this discussion and think that there is some correlation between what is being discussed here and the concept that for the first time in a recession Ireland does not have to physically export its talent but can tap into the rest of the world with a good internet connection.  There should be much more focus on nurturing indigenous talent which will grow and outlast the MNC&#8217;s located here for tax reasons.  I would certainly be interested in joining a group such as discussed above so please pass on my contact details.</p>
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		<title>By: Does Ireland Need a Network for Innovators? &#171; Brendan Hughes, talking about the Internet in business and society in Ireland</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1758</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Does Ireland Need a Network for Innovators? &#171; Brendan Hughes, talking about the Internet in business and society in Ireland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Nov 2009 17:20:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] innovation, ireland, legal, smart economy by Brendan   The post I wrote a couple of weeks back -  Is Ireland Really and Innovation Island? &#8211; received more interest than usual and in particular generated a very interesting discussion [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] innovation, ireland, legal, smart economy by Brendan   The post I wrote a couple of weeks back -  Is Ireland Really and Innovation Island? &#8211; received more interest than usual and in particular generated a very interesting discussion [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Fluffy Links &#8211; Wednesday November 4th 2009 &#171; Damien Mulley</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1745</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Fluffy Links &#8211; Wednesday November 4th 2009 &#171; Damien Mulley]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:12:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] post from Brendan Hughes on Innovation in Ireland. Don&#8217;t forget the IDA LinkedIn group on Innovation in [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Brendan</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1741</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brendan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Nov 2009 20:44:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks again to everyone for leaving comments on this post. It has been a very interesting discussion and there are some solid ideas in there. 

I&#039;m going to take some time (when I get a chance) to pull together what I think might be a way forward and put it out there to see what kind of interest there is.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks again to everyone for leaving comments on this post. It has been a very interesting discussion and there are some solid ideas in there. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to take some time (when I get a chance) to pull together what I think might be a way forward and put it out there to see what kind of interest there is.</p>
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		<title>By: Johneric Leach</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1732</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johneric Leach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:05:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And apologies for the terrible grammatic errors - I should have reviewed before submitting my comments!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And apologies for the terrible grammatic errors &#8211; I should have reviewed before submitting my comments!</p>
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		<title>By: Johneric Leach</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1731</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Johneric Leach]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:03:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Trevor I agree with your suggestion that we require a balance of MNs and indigenous industry.  I currently benefit from working with for an MN though as previously posted Ireland is just my home base and my work is globally focused.  The question is what do you perceive the balance to be in the future?  

My specific interest is in product based SME potential (as opposed to services or digital ventures).  In the product case I think we have to be realistic and understand that few MNs are likely to be attracted under the current economic and regulatory environment.  If you are looking for growth in this sector I believe SMEs will offer a catalyst to regenerate some degree of manufacturing in Ireland. 

I am reminded of the subject matter covered by Charles Handy in his book; &quot;The Flea and the Elephant&quot; where he indicates that the days of stable and permanent employment in large MNs is a dying cause and the need for employees to consider their independence and be flexible.  His theories support the Havoc development of the &quot;flea&quot; supporting the &quot;elephant&quot; (not meant to be disparaging to Havoc by describing them as fleas by this is the example used in Handy&#039;s book).  

I also fully support the need for EI and IDA involvement. In the on-line incubation network concept I have touted here I have constantly identified the need for an independent arbitrator who can create the legal, IP and support infrastructure.  There would be no point for an incubation network if some of the outcomes could not be commercialized with the assistance of the EI or IDA.  Has this not been one of the problems of third level research in Ireland?

Brian technological innovation is only one of many potential requirements for any SME. I also work in the high tech sector and innovation don&#039;t necessarily need to come from within the company. There are a wealth of accessible patents, licencees, third level research and inventive people from which technological innovation may be sourced. I work in the area of business development and one of the key factors is how we differentiate ourselves from the competition.  I work in a highly competitive market where we are an independent minnow compared to our competitors and yet we have won business from our competitors.  

In conclusion I would like to suggest that the future success of Ireland is the continued support for MN investment but also the belief that we can derive more export % from indigenous Irish industry.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Trevor I agree with your suggestion that we require a balance of MNs and indigenous industry.  I currently benefit from working with for an MN though as previously posted Ireland is just my home base and my work is globally focused.  The question is what do you perceive the balance to be in the future?  </p>
<p>My specific interest is in product based SME potential (as opposed to services or digital ventures).  In the product case I think we have to be realistic and understand that few MNs are likely to be attracted under the current economic and regulatory environment.  If you are looking for growth in this sector I believe SMEs will offer a catalyst to regenerate some degree of manufacturing in Ireland. </p>
<p>I am reminded of the subject matter covered by Charles Handy in his book; &#8220;The Flea and the Elephant&#8221; where he indicates that the days of stable and permanent employment in large MNs is a dying cause and the need for employees to consider their independence and be flexible.  His theories support the Havoc development of the &#8220;flea&#8221; supporting the &#8220;elephant&#8221; (not meant to be disparaging to Havoc by describing them as fleas by this is the example used in Handy&#8217;s book).  </p>
<p>I also fully support the need for EI and IDA involvement. In the on-line incubation network concept I have touted here I have constantly identified the need for an independent arbitrator who can create the legal, IP and support infrastructure.  There would be no point for an incubation network if some of the outcomes could not be commercialized with the assistance of the EI or IDA.  Has this not been one of the problems of third level research in Ireland?</p>
<p>Brian technological innovation is only one of many potential requirements for any SME. I also work in the high tech sector and innovation don&#8217;t necessarily need to come from within the company. There are a wealth of accessible patents, licencees, third level research and inventive people from which technological innovation may be sourced. I work in the area of business development and one of the key factors is how we differentiate ourselves from the competition.  I work in a highly competitive market where we are an independent minnow compared to our competitors and yet we have won business from our competitors.  </p>
<p>In conclusion I would like to suggest that the future success of Ireland is the continued support for MN investment but also the belief that we can derive more export % from indigenous Irish industry.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian O'Donovan</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1730</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Brian O'Donovan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 30 Oct 2009 09:04:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&gt;I would also not dismiss EI and IDA to quickly
The success of these agencies (IDA in particular) is envied by many other countries. Everywhere in the world I see examples of people quoting them as examples which should be replicated by wherever country/region they are discussing.

While I don&#039;t deny that EI in particular has a lot of room for improvement, we should not forget to be proud of them and their achievements.

Perhaps the proposed merger of the two agencies can enable the undoubtedly excellent talent in IDA applied to the EI mission.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&gt;I would also not dismiss EI and IDA to quickly<br />
The success of these agencies (IDA in particular) is envied by many other countries. Everywhere in the world I see examples of people quoting them as examples which should be replicated by wherever country/region they are discussing.</p>
<p>While I don&#8217;t deny that EI in particular has a lot of room for improvement, we should not forget to be proud of them and their achievements.</p>
<p>Perhaps the proposed merger of the two agencies can enable the undoubtedly excellent talent in IDA applied to the EI mission.</p>
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		<title>By: Mainland Europe</title>
		<link>http://brendanhughes.ie/2009/10/24/ireland-innovation-island/#comment-1729</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mainland Europe]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Oct 2009 22:19:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[My email address is fine to share. For reference I work with start-ups/small to medium sized companies in the area of Software &amp; Digital Media. I am based in Germany and work between there UK and Finland. So in that context my background may or may not be relevant to further &quot;offline&quot; discussions. I will leave that up to others to decide.

I agree with Brians comment that the innovation can be in the marketing or indeed as I said above in the &quot;business model&quot;. Compare the recent fortunes of Nokia and Apple when it comes to Smartphones and related services. Nokia have their version of iTunes, called Ovi (which means Door in Finnish) but I guess many have not even hear of it! Apples execution (design and marketing) have been much better.

Somebody mentioned also earlier about starting from the creation of a product rather an industry. It might even be good to bring the business model thinking in right at this stage also; perhaps even start at the customer rather than the product.

Personally I took from the comments that MNCs were a positive feature of Irelands economy and I would not question their benefit but there is no harm in having ambitions to have homegrown success stories also. There are examples of economies of a similar size to Ireland with a larger portion of SMEs that are sustainable economies also.

I would also not dismiss EI and IDA to quickly (although I did point out in a previous comment that the positioning with them might not appeal to everybody). Not every start-up will have the benefit of an investor like Intel who can afford to &quot;create the market&quot; as they want/must with Wimax i.e. see also $900m investment in (Sprint)Nextel.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My email address is fine to share. For reference I work with start-ups/small to medium sized companies in the area of Software &amp; Digital Media. I am based in Germany and work between there UK and Finland. So in that context my background may or may not be relevant to further &#8220;offline&#8221; discussions. I will leave that up to others to decide.</p>
<p>I agree with Brians comment that the innovation can be in the marketing or indeed as I said above in the &#8220;business model&#8221;. Compare the recent fortunes of Nokia and Apple when it comes to Smartphones and related services. Nokia have their version of iTunes, called Ovi (which means Door in Finnish) but I guess many have not even hear of it! Apples execution (design and marketing) have been much better.</p>
<p>Somebody mentioned also earlier about starting from the creation of a product rather an industry. It might even be good to bring the business model thinking in right at this stage also; perhaps even start at the customer rather than the product.</p>
<p>Personally I took from the comments that MNCs were a positive feature of Irelands economy and I would not question their benefit but there is no harm in having ambitions to have homegrown success stories also. There are examples of economies of a similar size to Ireland with a larger portion of SMEs that are sustainable economies also.</p>
<p>I would also not dismiss EI and IDA to quickly (although I did point out in a previous comment that the positioning with them might not appeal to everybody). Not every start-up will have the benefit of an investor like Intel who can afford to &#8220;create the market&#8221; as they want/must with Wimax i.e. see also $900m investment in (Sprint)Nextel.</p>
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